We want to travel with our 8/9 weeks old pedigree-puppies

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#76

2015-01-14 14:39

Nearly for months by the breeder..She or He had to socialaze the pup. spend much time on all the pups..We as future owner want a pup that we can socialaze and go out with to learn ..

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#77

2015-01-14 15:36

Hvis mother shall learn the puppy something, so it is out in the nature, against dangere and take care on themselv. But we are selling familydogs, and when the leave our home in the age of 8 weeks the are realy good sozialisated from the breeder, It is than very importent, the comes imidiatly to there future families and this Family have to learn them, how this puppy have to act in the Family as a familymember. It is very importent to go with the new puppy to puppyclasses so this puppy learns all the different races, different peoples and the puppy have to learn all what the Family like them to do. We know, the forming of the character beginns in the week 3 of there age, and it is finished in the week 16. So therfor the dogs have to go to there new homes in the age of 8 weeks. We are breeders in 20 years with a big knowledge.

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#78 Re: Re: Being able to take a puppy with at age 8 weeks, the appropriate time frame that we like

2015-01-14 16:49

#27: SDR - Re:  

 


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#79

2015-01-14 18:22

good petition kip it up thank you

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#80

2015-01-14 18:25

This is not good for the new owners, the breeders and the puppies.

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#81

2015-01-14 18:28

This is not good for the new owners, the puppies and the breeders

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#82

2015-01-14 18:34

This rule is just not right. Perhaps it was taken by misstake of people not knowing so much about dogbreeding. I suppose it was of there goodwill, and that they want to stop puppymills. But that can be stopped in many other ways. This is not good at all, just very bad for the dogs and has no effect at all on that problem. Please reconsider this.


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#83

2015-01-14 19:15

Many are puppy owners or Small breeders who want to pick up their puppies young...at 8 weeks, so bonding & show training can take place where they will permanently live.
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#84 CASE OF DOG BEHAVIOUR

2015-01-14 20:20

There is very important reason to take puppy in age of 8/9 weeks!!! In this moment they finish the time of imprinting and starting the time of socialising. Individual socialisation made by new owner from age of 8 weeks is much MUCH much better for character features of puppy (and in future adult dog) than socialisation started in 4th month!!! If breeder will have 10 puppies for example he will not be able to guarantee all puppies so good socialistation as new owner for individual puppy.


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#85

2015-01-14 20:53

In Canada, puppies can be imported at 8 weeks without being vaccinated against rabies, as long as you can provide a valid proof that the mother of the puppy is current with her vaccination. I remember they explained to me the reason is that the puppy still shares the immunity from the mom at that young age.

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#86

2015-01-14 22:54

Zo'n slechte wetgeving heb ik zelden gezien. Ongenuanceerd en dom.

De doelgroep waar het voor bedoeld is gaat gewoon door met vrachtwagens vol pups over de open grenzen te rijden.

De goede fokkers komen met de socialisatie in de problemen en uiteindelijk zal het alleen maar meer negatief zijn voor de honden dan positief.

Beter zou het zijn om deze regeling terug te draaien en de grenzen weer te sluiten MET controle. Goed voor de economie en super tegen de invoer van de broodfokkershonden uit het oostblok.

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#87 Re:

2015-01-15 07:26

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 Helemaal mee eens dat is ook de reden waarom deze petitie is gestart !!!


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#88

2015-01-15 07:34

Jeg støtter dette , da det ellers vil påvirke hvalpene negativt, at de ikke kan komme i de familier som skal lave det store socialiseringsarbejde som er nødvendigt før uge 16, da hvalpen ellers kan være påvirket resten af livet. Det vil også påvirke avls arbejde. Samt dem der smugler hvalpe over grænsen vil stadig gøre dette og i udvidet grad.
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#89 puppy's

2015-01-15 10:43

I think that we must not obay this law. I will take the risk to transport my puppy across the border.

You cross the borders NL/D/B/F/L without controle!! Also the ilegal "breeders", so the law don't have a statement. 


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#90 Re:

2015-01-15 10:47

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 wass ist artikel 7?


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#91

2015-01-15 14:02

shared the petition. This is really a stupid rule, for puppies AND new owners.

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#92 Science says this is a bad idea!

2015-01-15 20:00

As someone who has imported a puppy in the past and plans to again (and spend my vacation dollars in the EU while I do it), this rule is ridiculous. It does nothing to stop the trafficking of puppy mills or factories - they will find ways to ship puppies under the radar. Instead the laws stop someone like me, who has carefully researched what breed I want and I'm willing to pay to get it, from getting a puppy during prime socialization period. There have been dozens of studies on the effects of puppies not getting proper socialization before 12 weeks. I could cite dozens of puppies I've personally met while teaching puppy and adult obedience classes who were not properly socialized puppies and caused problems for their families because of it.

There is also evidence - and the beginnings of research - that points to rabies vaccines being given to dogs before 16 weeks can be detrimental to their lifelong health. If the point of the law is to protect puppies and keep them healthy, this is a poor way to go about doing it.

Yes, there needs to be regulations and restrictions for the health of the puppies leaving the country as well as the dogs in the country receiving the puppy, but this is not the way to do it.


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#93

2015-01-16 15:07

Hopelijk wordt dit snel terug gedraaid.

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#94

2015-01-17 21:21

i can not understand this rule ... if lands are without rage, why is rabbit necessary to go true the limit of land ? !!!

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#95

2015-01-17 22:29

And why cant the breeder socialise the puppy?! It is at least an attempt to stop some of the puppy trafficing. And I am sorry to say many "proper" "successful breeders" have been too prepared to illegally import dogs, arrange incorrect passports & break the law. Im afraid people who think that puppies should move around Europe at 8 weeks are at best impatient & at worst lazy & greedy...


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#96

2015-01-18 00:19


De serieuze RASHONDEN fokker word knettergek Van het RABIËS Hondsdol Spel!!

De serieuze fokker mag zijn pup niet meer mee geven met 7a 8 weken eerst rabiës geven.Dan met 15 wkn mag je naar je nieuwe EU buurland.Wat een onwijs plan.
Als je africhting's hondjes fokt die maken elkaar na 8 weken al kapot.Ze zetten de boel op stelten geen staart maar aan hun kont.En misschien geen kop meer op hun romp.Ja dierenartsen africhters en gedrag's therapeuten zullen dit wel weten.En willen het liefst dat wij hun pup op 7a 8 weken mee kunnen geven.Zodat zij ze Goed kunnen socialiseren het is immers de belangrijkste fase voor een pup tussen 7 en 15 wkn in hun leven.Dan gaan wij als serieuze fokker van 1 A 2 nestjes per jaar toch ook frauderen en de pup dan toch meegeven.
Met alle gevolgen van dien niemand laat z'n pup dan nog bij de dierenarts zien.En word het ziekte beeld vergroot.Nee dit kan een serieuze fokker niet maken dan ga ik in de GEVANGENIS raken.
Wat willen ze hier nou eigenlijk mee bereiken dat malafide broodfok word gestopt!!En er 30 pups op een vierkante meter z'n eigen stront moet op vreten.
Die getransporteerd worden in ons land.
Ach Rot op de maffia draait zo een nieuw documentje in elkaar.De pups van hun hebben geen stamboom.En of indentiteit dus zijn ze ook de leeftijd van de pup Kwijt.
Ze plakken rabiës stickertje op hun nieuwe EU boekje.
Tegen hun kunnen wij niet zeggen GA TERUG waar u vandaan kwam.
NEE Ze zijn weer binnen en de mensen kunnen snel voor weinig een pup in de winkel pinnen.
De serieuze fokker moet nu meer geld voor zijn pups gaan vragen.
Want ze mogen het nest pas met 15 weken verlaten.
Zo de maffia staat weer op VRIJ
En rooft alles weer voor onze neus voorbij.
Ik GA TERUG naar START ik krijg het hier van aan m'n HART!!
En BEGIN weer OVER NIEUW.
Toch laat ik het hier niet bij zitten en vraag de STAAT van mijn land.
Een ERKENNING aan WIJ WILLEN OOK EEN STEMPEL als RASHONDEN FOKKER!!
Ik laat me niet uitschakelen door BROODFOKKERS.
Moeten de GOEDE weer onder de KWADE lijden nee wij zullen strijden.
Voor goede stamboom pups die mogen vertrekken met 8weken
Wij willen een KEURMERK voor goede FOK.
Die volgens zeer strenge regels via de ras vereniging en KMSH zijn GEFOKT!!!

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#97

2015-01-18 09:59

Iedereen tekenen aub

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#98

2015-01-18 14:13

We want to travel with 8/9 weeks old puppy!!

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#99

2015-01-18 14:49

Sous prétexte de protéger les pays de l'Union d'une maladie grave, mortelle mais quasiment inexistante, on va créer d'autres maladies, à grande échelle, des maladies de comportement.
Pourquoi ne pas interdire l'importation massive de chiots ? Pourquoi ne pas interdire l'importation de chiots sans pedigree reconnus par la FCI ? Pourquoi ne pas organiser plus de contrôle sanitaires des élevages ?

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#100

2015-01-18 14:56

For the health and diversity of pure bred dogs, there needs to be a way to share bloodlines worldwide. A 16 week old puppy of any larger breed would not be able to fly in the cabin, so would be more at risk to travel. It is very upsetting to hear that any dog who had a rabies shot before the microchip would have to immediately have another rabies shot. This would be very detrimental to the health of the dog, and unnecessary as you can do arabies titer.