Say no to stalybridge mosque

#570: - Re: Re:  I never claimed to, simply referenced him as someone with long term direct experience of the points at issue. No doubt some areas are 'fine', many others demonstrably are not and not just in India. There are no more tensions in Stallybridge as the mosque proposal has been rejected due to the large number of people signing the petition and lodging formal objections. if the bulk of local public opinion had been in favour no doubt a petition would have been launched in favour of the mosque, it wasn't because they clearly aren't. I didn't insinuate anything, I responded directly to the point raised where it was stated that, ' I don't understand why someone who hasn't been is telling me as if they know better' so they DID allude to it. Living in India in apparent total ignorance of the manifest and widespread inter cultural problems and regular outbreaks of hostility and violence and vaguely stating eveyhting is 'fine' certainly doesn't qualify anyone to comment more than someone who's never been there. I didn't react wildy simply used irony to demonstrate the irrationality of a specific statement.

#571: -  I said there was a massive disproportion between Black on White rapes and vice versa in America with virtually no cases of the latter, as the US collects and collates ethnicity as part of its statistical analysis of offences. This information is easily and widely available. Let me know if you come up with anything that demonstrates otherwise. 

#572: -  I never stated what proportion of Halal was pre or unstunned just that I was strongly opposed to the latter due to its inherent barbarity and cruelty and the fact that British slaughtermen would be prosecuted for doing so, and that having separate laws for different cultures within the same country was dangerous, unfair and divisive. People are prosecuted for animal cruelty or neglect if the stunning failure is due to negligence if caught, unless of course they're practising Halal/Kosher (or is that anti-Semitic) in which case they're let off when inflicting deliberate and totally unnecessary suffering, an indefensible and appalling state of affairs. It manifestly IS far more cruel to deliberately slit the throat of an animal when fully conscious as opposed to unconscious, that's why stunning was introduced in the first place. Why comment about the proportions stunned and unstunned if you really do equate the two.

#573: -  You've ignored the posts regarding the British Islamic population's exponential growth and their consequent takeover of many and growing areas. This is about opposition to (in this case the Stalybridge mosque proposal) potential problems in the future created by the well evidenced behaviour and exponential population growth of a specific cultural group. So what if they're a few per cent now, on all the demographic evidence available, for instance between 2004 - 2008 the Islamic population of Britain grew ten times faster than any other group, they'll be massively more numerous in a few years. There is ample and global historical and modern precedence for such methods, as repeatedly posted on here. NO other organised paedophile gangs from one cultural group systematically target the female children (you forgot the age factor) of another group. If so name them. 

#574: -  The totalitarian aspect was fully and comprehensively explained. People's feelings are not an exclusively racial issue, no doubt many people of Pakistani descent aren't bothered about the word unless it's used offensively, some are. Like us and other groups  they're all individuals in that respect. Indeed some White people are hysterically and irrationally oversensitive to the mere use of words such as Paki and nigger due to the current obsession with race issues. If anyone knowingly uses such words offensively they should be dealt with in proportion to the actual nature and specific circumstances of the case, not grossly disproportionately punished due to modish obsessions by the authorities and establishment with ethnic issues. My right to use this or any word is exactly equal to anyone else's right to object. I will put my case using reasoned argument, others will put theirs. Although no-one has supplied any sort of cogent argument against using these words in a non-offensive context, apart from fabricated statements about what all people in a specific racial/cultural group think.

#575: -  All such comments should be condemned in proportion to their seriousness, intent and context, as I have repeatedly said. It isn't my job to reprimand bigots, they reprimand and condemn themselves to any balanced intelligent individual. Anyone should feel free to use the word Paki in the proper context.

was scanning through this weeks edition of the Tameside Advertiser and came across an article in the 'Readers Letters' section and in relates to the plans for having a Mosque built on Kenworthy Street in Ashton there is a guy who has written up and complained about the council rejecting the plans I red his comments and started laughing. The guy is claiming that every person who has signed the petition is a "Racist" and "Anti-Muslim"... Give me a break lol. Why are we "Racists" for not wanting a mosque built there?? He wrote that [and I quote] "White Christian's have Sunday Bible churches etc etc so why car'nt Muslims have a Mosque?" Well, in Islamabad and other Asian country's Do they have 'White Christian Churches' etc etc?? NO so why should Muslims be aloud to have Mosque's here in the UK??? Are Muslims and Islams hoping/trying to get Brtitish people into the Islamic Religion and culture or something? Why do we [British] even want to learn about the "True Meaning of Islam" etc etc?? I know Britian is already "Devided" to a certain extent, We have Asian Community's in alomst every Town, City and Area in the UK I wonder how many [If any at all] White Christian familys live in Islamabad, Asia, Baghdad and other Foreign countrys???

#53: - How is saying no to a mosque racist?

There is Plenty of churches in Muslim countries, I come from turkey & ive seen many. do a bit of research before you say there isnt. There is also churches in Pakistan as there is 5% population of pakistani christians.